I have been happily using the CakePHP Oracle driver during development of a couple new projects over the past 4 months. It has been working rather well, and without too many changes to the code. I have been developing strictly under Cake’s conventions, and that seems to be working alright.
I have also had some confirmed reports of developers using the driver in development. Lech Jankovski was even kind enough to provide me with some enhancements he made in order for the driver to support quoted identifiers. At first, I did not want to support quoted identifiers, for they are generally considered demon art amongst the #oracle. The only true gain is the usage of case sensitive tables and fields, and using a database’s reserved keywords as identifiers. If you’re developing from scratch for Cake, I can’t see why this would be necessary. I can only imagine this would be useful if you were trying to use a legacy schema in which some dipshit made bad design choices.
Unfortunately, Lech’s enhancement of my code was not a complete solution to the problem, although his changes did turn on a proverbial light in my head. I’ve spent the last three days trying to solve this problem in the most portable way, so that a user of CakePHP/Oracle will not have to explicitly define all their table names and keys. It’s been quite difficult. What I thought would end up as Version2 has ended up becoming more of a proof of concept. Both versions are still available in my Subversion repository.
svn://newnewmedia.com/dbo_oracle/trunk
Although I intend to continue trying to get the driver to support quoted identifiers, I still sit here wondering how useful they really are.
Attention Oracle Users: Do you really need this functionality?
Update: Ok, this thread is too hysterical to ignore.
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/121243
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Hi Jeff,
First, thank you for your work on the Oracle driver.
Now, I did ran into the quoted identifier (or lack thereof) problem and not being very Oracle savvy it took me a while to figure out what was going on. First with my ‘User’ model and then with a ’size’ column identifier, both being reserved keywords and breaking the generated SQL.
At this stage, I can still change User to Usr and size to file_size or something, but I’m sure that most cakePHP developers who need the multi-database support would build the application using mySQL and expect it to run as is with the Oracle driver… hence the need for the quoted identifers.
March 9th, 2007 at 2:22 am
As someone who’s evaluating PHP Frameworks for corporate use, and our corporate database is Oracle, I really hate having to deal with case sensitivity in database tables. I’d really rather that everything was case insensitive and quoting of tables /columns wasn’t required - as long as they’re never quoted this shouldn’t be an issue, right?
March 15th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Colin,
Currently the CakePHP Oracle driver does not support reserved Oracle keywords or case sensitive identifiers (columns, tables, etc).. If you are not creating tables and columns with quotes around them, you should be fine.
Sorting and comparison is a different issue. In this current driver, I set default session variables to try to make most sorting and comparison case insensitive. The only things that are still case sensitive are native database functions such as LIKE. But if you have a 10gR2 you can fix that as well with the commented out third session variable set call.
April 19th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
[…] One thing that initially concerned me, though, is that there isn’t an Oracle driver currently released for Cake. This led me to find Jeff Loiselle’s dbo_oracle driver. While it’s not in the current release, it seems to be pretty mature, and I’ve started to use it as I learn the framework. Actually, I’ve ‘translated’ the DDL for some of the easy tutorials from MySQL syntax to Oracle syntax. If anyone is interested below is the Oracle DDL for the 15 Minute Blog Tutorial. My apologies if someone has already done this! Please let me know in a comment, and I’ll give proper credit to whomever did it first. […]
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:52 pm
This driver looks pretty cool, you’ve obviously put a lot of time in it. I am having trouble with the delete method and was hoping you could give me a hand. Here is the thread on the Google Group:
http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php/browse_thread/thread/a3249622a34caef4
Thanks a lot!!
August 15th, 2007 at 7:57 am
Hi Jeff, i am try to enter the repository and appear the following message: “Error * Can’t connect to host ‘newnewmedia.com’: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.”. It’s aviable the source?, Thank you Jeff
August 31st, 2007 at 11:39 am
I’m behind a firewall because off that i can’t access to svn, can you install a web browser of the repo so i can see and download?
November 5th, 2007 at 2:45 am
Hi,
I know, my question is dumb, and not connected at all to Oracle… but I also work with subversion, and I wondered how you succeeded to enable outside access to your subversion repository… (svn://newnewmedia.com/dbo_oracle/trunk)
thanks!
P.S. I wish you luck in the concert mentioned few posts above. good music!
January 9th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Hi.
I’ve got a problem with oracle driver, I can’t save data on my oracle database, I work with Oracle 10g, when I try to save date and datetime type I have and Undefined error, I try changing the data format with alter session statement on conection time and I try generating on controller the correct query but this compound a string with query, this query works fine on oracle client, but don’t work under cakephp.
Can you help me please.
Regards.
January 13th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
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February 14th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Hello,
This may be a non related issue, but I am unable to see any column names using Bake. I see the tables just fine, but Bake usually asks me to supply validation criteria for each field when using mysql as the data source. That is not happening when I connect to oracle. Do you have any idea what could be causing this?